Lorde is sharing a little bit of insight on what it’s like to be friends with Taylor Swift…and if you remember the song “I Know Places”, well, it’s exactly like that.

The New Zealander singer (hardly a Z-lister herself) describes being friends with one of the most famous women in the world as like “having a friend with an auto-immune disease”.

As she explained to Britain’s The Guardian:

“It’s like having a friend with very specific allergies. There are certain places you can’t go together. Certain things you can’t do.”

And while with us normals that might mean accommodating a shellfish or gluten intolerance, for Swift’s pals we’re assuming it’s the paparazzi and camera phones that break her out in hives. Same same, right?